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Rally MonkeySo if you could just restore that rank..  Joined: 13 Mar 2005
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CountChoculaWarning- may cause CountChoculitis  Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Location: sittin on my throne as the prince of bel-air
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.... anyone wanna explain to me WTF that site is talking about...? 
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K9 CarlosOld Fart  Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Location: Behind You
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| CountChocula wrote: | | .... anyone wanna explain to me WTF that site is talking about...? |
Stuff.
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Wang ChungElite  Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Location: Virginia Tech
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 2:55 pm
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Asynchronous JavaScript + XML
Basically AJAX is some new style of programming for the web that allows instant shit to happen. Very cool.
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Rally MonkeySo if you could just restore that rank.. Joined: 13 Mar 2005
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 3:08 pm
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In the article click the google links and you can see it happening (very fast)...
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BrutusBuffNerd  Joined: 13 Mar 2005
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I like the idea of style sheets and just sending XML data instead of full web pages. But I also dont see everyone/everybiz using the same 6 standard AJAX style sheets - boring. And for the users, woo hoo lets go download style sheets for 5 minutes so we can maybe upload some displays 5 seconds quicker next time. THe data is still the data and that will get there when it gets there. I guess I need to study it. Send me the monkey hitting itself in the head and nodding style sheet and I guess I wont notice how slow my server response REALLY is... Its the "Really Monkey?" XSLT. 
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Rally MonkeySo if you could just restore that rank.. Joined: 13 Mar 2005
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| Brutus wrote: | | I like the idea of style sheets and just sending XML data instead of full web pages. But I also dont see everyone/everybiz using the same 6 standard AJAX style sheets - boring. And for the users, woo hoo lets go download style sheets for 5 minutes so we can maybe upload some displays 5 seconds quicker next time. THe data is still the data and that will get there when it gets there. I guess I need to study it. Send me the monkey hitting itself in the head and nodding style sheet and I guess I wont notice how slow my server response REALLY is... Its the "Really Monkey?" XSLT. |
Compared to ASP XML/XSLT with a little java thrown in is dramatically faster for what we use it for. Since 90% of the bank's income is directly related to the net, speed is everything. You are right Brutus not eveyone/everybiz needs it, but it's perfect for all the forms we have. Besides with well over 250 projects in various stages requirements, development, testing etc. If we did the same thing without trying to take advantage of new methods of doing dev we'd get steamrolled eventually by some other company that kept investigating new ways of doing things...
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CountChoculaWarning- may cause CountChoculitis Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Location: sittin on my throne as the prince of bel-air
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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 10:25 pm
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SO MANY WORDS!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHH.... so you mean that google is fast because it uses new type of thing, that is faster? good, yes
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[20:43] -≠∫ĆŤ∫≠- ŜρξčļαГ јỈмMﻻ: but use a lot of napalm
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BrutusBuffNerd Joined: 13 Mar 2005
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 3:21 am
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I am a HUGE proponent of investigating new developments.  I am also a HUGE naysayer and skeptical of EVERYTHING. Its a strange combo I know. It always raises eyebrows at work. 
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Rally MonkeySo if you could just restore that rank.. Joined: 13 Mar 2005
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Naysaying is a good thing... Sometimes I'm listened to and sometimes some VP somewhere has an agenda so the software we implement gets a "special IndyMac twist" That's when the life of Dilbert kicks in for me. I get to sit there and let it happen, because raising concerns (which are legitimate) only pisses-off senior management.
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SupaFlyGunner Fan Club President  Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Location: sunnydale mental institution (for the mentally unstable) ((like me)) (((supa)))
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Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:19 am
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bah, i wont let ppl make bad decisions... ill fight em hard... my theory is, youre payin me to do a fuckin job, ima fuckin do it right wheather u want me to or not
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BrutusBuffNerd Joined: 13 Mar 2005
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Yeah Supa i hear that. But if i followed that creed I'd bag the people paying me and stuff them in a closet until ALL the work was done...
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massiveCaptain Ass Kicking Asshole  Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Location: at Des'
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Well Supa, one gets tired after a while. I used to work for a company with 18 partners! To get ANYTHING done took a CLUSTER f*%& of committees and meetings. I spent most of my time battling for the right thing. Then I had a revalation: Convince 1 manager of the issue, idea, etc - make him think he came up with the idea (easy to do with egomaniacs) - and he will champion it until it gets approved, funded, accepted, etc. - I would just sit back and let the monkeys I had deployed back on the Partner's backs do their work.
Worked like a charm - they never realized that they worked for me!
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Rally MonkeySo if you could just restore that rank.. Joined: 13 Mar 2005
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Sometimes you have to lose a few battles in order to win the war (or at least survive the conflict).
Since my company typically reshuffles the deck every 6 months there are always internal opportunities, you have to survive until better ones become available.
Fighting hard for certain causes in the corporate world isn't always the smartest thing to do. Massive hit it right on the head introduce an idea to an ally in Senior management and let them champion the cause. If the cause dies then find another but usually it's easier to get things done this way.
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SupaFlyGunner Fan Club President Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Location: sunnydale mental institution (for the mentally unstable) ((like me)) (((supa)))
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| SupaFly wrote: | | bah, i wont let ppl make bad decisions... ill fight em hard... my theory is, youre payin me to do a fuckin job, ima fuckin do it right wheather u want me to or not |
lmao @ u old farts....
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(taken WAYYYYY too seriously, lol  )
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