0.999.... = 1

Brutus · Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 4:51 pm Post subject:

Sully wrote:

Brutus:
I was using ~ to signify that the digit was infinitly repeating in the same the same way that a line over the last digit written would be used. It isn't 0.99, it's 0.9-repeating.

For any ~ to any"..." = something quantified then the quantifiable math will be the same. No matter how far down the rabbit hole you go .9~ = .9~. You just have to have the gumption to bring your ass down there. Very Happy

Using .09 was easiest example - if you use .99999 or whatever you'll get the same answer. AND If .99 = 1 then it would be called 1, AND for functional brevity call 1 "1" instead of "0.9~". Smashed

Ever see that movie "Office Space"? A federal Jury probably wouldn't have seen their 0.0000001 = 0.0 either. Smile

Good post.
Mug Toast

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Cap'n Sprite · Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 5:06 pm Post subject:

OMG, The nerds are coming out of their hole.

*runs*

Razz

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Wang Chung · Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 5:23 pm Post subject:

Sully wrote:

Damn you Wang! Ordinarily, I'd be researching Godel's Incompleteness theorem so I know how to thwart your misguided attempt to disprove me. However, I'm instead doing something with an actual girl. Not a fictional one. Hah!

Actually I was agreeing you. n00b. I cited Godel's Theorem, because that's what always reminds me that when I get frustrated by math I have to keep in mind that it's a simple system of measure that WE created.

Instead of ranting on and on to disprove your bashing of me, I'll be looking at ASCII pron on three monitors. Thus I will have three times the chicks that you will at any given time, guaranteed! In addition, these chicks won't nag me for money or anything. We'll see who has the fatter wallet when we're done.
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Brutus · Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 5:36 pm Post subject:

LOL

Its your pirate berfday so enjoy all 3 monitors!!! Very Happy

Bet you couldn't use the mouse and the keyboard too though. Do the math. Wink

Math is definitely manufactured. But it is also the world's universal (and most anal) language - so it dont hurt to speak it a little.
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CountChocula · Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 6:01 pm Post subject:

Cap'n Sprite wrote:

OMG, The nerds are coming out of their hole.

*runs*

Razz

QFE!
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RCSI · Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 6:42 pm Post subject:

omg dejavue or whatever
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Jabberwocky · Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 8:12 pm Post subject:

there is absolutely no reason that it would ever matter if .9~ = 1 . at all. i'm not satisfied with that proof anyway, you can't do accurate mathematical caculations with repeating numbers as far as i know. there's another way to disprove this theorem (it's a common one on the internet) but i don't care enough to find it.

in reality, it doesn't matter.

Sully · Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 9:04 pm Post subject:

Fine. I'm sorry Wang.

Brutus:
You're missing the point. We arn't cutting off the nines at any point. They are infinitely repeating. If you have any finite number of repeating nines after the decimal point, it does not equal zero. But if you have infinitly repeating nines, it equals one.

And Jabberwocky:
There is a calculus based proof that uses infinite series that addresses the proof more directly. I didn't post it because I've taken enough calculus to understand the setup and why it would work, but not to actually do the final steps.
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K9 Carlos · Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 9:12 pm Post subject:

Would you all stop before I calculate the speed your ass was moving when it left those skid marks in your drawers.
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CountChocula · Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 9:16 pm Post subject:

K9 Carlos wrote:

Would you all stop before I calculate the speed your ass was moving when it left those skid marks in your drawers.

PWNED!!! ROFL!
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Padfoot · Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 9:49 pm Post subject:

mathematical proofs, theorems, and such aside, .9999999~ will never=1. If it did, it wouldnt exist, it'd be 1.
.99999~can't be absolutely equivalent to one, because there's always the .000000000000000~1 that will make it 1. you can't have 1 whole if you've only got part. mathematically and theortically, it's possible, but in reality, it's not.

no matter what you say, the man who got .9999~ of a pie will never be as happy as the man who got 1 whole cherry pie. Wink

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Rally Monkey · Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 9:56 pm Post subject:

SupaFly wrote:

heres how 3=5....

Theorem : 3=4
Proof:
Suppose:
a + b = c
This can also be written as:
4a - 3a + 4b - 3b = 4c - 3c
After reorganising:
4a + 4b - 4c = 3a + 3b - 3c
Take the constants out of the brackets:
4 * (a+b-c) = 3 * (a+b-c)
Remove the same term left and right:
4 = 3

ok, now since 4 = 3... lets make 4 =5

Theorem: 4 = 5
Proof:
16 - 36 = 25 - 45
4^2 - 9*4 = 5^2 - 9*5
4^2 - 9*4 + 81/4 = 5^2 - 9*5 + 81/4
(4 - 9/2)^2 = (5 - 9/2)^2
4 - 9/2 = 5 - 9/2
4 = 5

soooooo since 3 = 4 now & 4 = 5, then 3 = 5

Wonderful display of circular logic Supa
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Sully · Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 11:18 pm Post subject:

Padfoot wrote:

mathematical proofs, theorems, and such aside, .9999999~ will never=1. If it did, it wouldnt exist, it'd be 1.
.99999~can't be absolutely equivalent to one, because there's always the .000000000000000~1 that will make it 1. you can't have 1 whole if you've only got part. mathematically and theortically, it's possible, but in reality, it's not.

no matter what you say, the man who got .9999~ of a pie will never be as happy as the man who got 1 whole cherry pie. Wink

They would be just as happy, because zero point nine repeating is just another way of saying one! Just like zero point three repeating is just another way of saying one third.
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CountChocula · Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 11:22 pm Post subject:

OMFG a speck of my pie is missing!!! Evil or Very Mad

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