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Gen. DeathBum in a Box Joined: 14 Mar 2005 Location: Haelen, Europe
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 4:34 pm Post subject: WoW ain't addictive |
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5327497459334792260&q=%5Bepix%5D&hl=en
That made me think
It has some good arguements
and the guy who is explaining everything,
I know him, and I played with him on my realm (server) _________________ 将軍
-=|CT|=-Gen. Death
The wronging of the past must be made right in the present.
GotMilk? wrote: | The ones I would recruit are not the ones going "HOW DOES I JOIN TC?!" |
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Stealth▲RAWR TRIANGLE RAWR▲ Joined: 13 Mar 2005
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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First thing watching him, his actions and stances were not swaying me in his favor. He was very passive. He had excelent word choices, but overall it wasn't that great.
He's mainly talking about why people play. Not really the actual addicted people...
They say it's "addiction" not because of how many hours you play, but if you NEED it. Your brain codes itself to need the game. Ever get pissed and throw a controller on the ground because you were pissed at something you did in a game. That's being too close to the game and is a minor form of addiction.
He meantioned Playing Space Invaders for hours on end and that no one would play for hours. My mom did that. She played it everyday by herself.
He also said playing a video game is a hobby like playing golf etc. That may be true, but he doesn't address that it can be addictive like anything else.
Example: 40 Year Old Virgin. He collected action figures. If you touched them and tried to pull them out of their boxes, he would explode. One because they were valuable, but the main reason was the fact they were his "comfort." He NEEDED those collectables. His gf had to talk him out of him and even in the process he complained that she was making sell his things and that it made him uncomfortable.
I've gotten into it for about 16 mins so far and I may check the rest later. But he basically restates the same things from what I've seen and doesn't give very good examples to back it up. _________________ Motherfucking Triangles! Being all three sided n' shit, who do they think they are?!
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BenderThe First Bi-Sexual (mostly gay) Robot Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Location: Planet Express Ship (flying over Canada)
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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wow, this guy seemed to change his argument of proving how WoW isn't addictive, to just proving how bad the media is very quickly, and it seemed to me how he was explaining how people could get addicted to WoW, and that it's fine to embrace it. That is his opinion, but it has nothing to do with proving whether the game is addictive or not.
Some of his examples are pretty dumb too. He compares someone practicing basketball night and day to someone playing WoW, but he gets mad that the gamer will be called an "addict", and the baller is a "sportsman". Well in the end he is just proving the ignorance of the public i guess, because practicing basketball all day would make you addicted to basketball, but that is not necessarily a bad thing. So basically he proves how both of them are addictive, that still doesn't show how WoW isn't addictive.
And then another example is him going to a bar every week, and how that differs from him meeting some ppl at some volcano to talk in wow. It seems to me he again completely missed the point he was trying to prove, as that is more like tradition and not addiction (there is a difference)
Plus, he points out how you don't need to do anything in the game, and there is no drive, which is false to get you hooked. If there is no drive for people they won't play the game, and it will fail. Blizzard wants you to play the game a lot, and continue the experience.
His talking then gets to deciding on how WoW is like a community, and who that isn't wrong. I don't really see this as a wrong thing, and then he goes on to say if it is addictive or not again, he is trying to prove how this game is not addictive by proving how other things that we have become addicted to have been accepted and it is no different from WoW.
Now im not gonna post anymore things as I watch because I'm pretty sure im regurgatating a lot, and i have a feeling he's going to prove the same thing over and over, proving how being addicted to WoW is a fine thing
BTW The issue he should be acknowledging is that the game seems to be so compelling that someone plays it, likes it, and bam- addiction
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Gen. DeathBum in a Box Joined: 14 Mar 2005 Location: Haelen, Europe
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 6:33 am Post subject: |
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In the end he has a documentary about a kid who plays WoW,
You can't hear it very good so Ill paste that docu here so you know what is said in that:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bffnx86IEpU _________________ 将軍
-=|CT|=-Gen. Death
The wronging of the past must be made right in the present.
GotMilk? wrote: | The ones I would recruit are not the ones going "HOW DOES I JOIN TC?!" |
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RK-MaraUber Dick Wad Joined: 14 Mar 2005 Location: Finland
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 8:09 am Post subject: |
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He has some good points, but it's still addictive. Some people can only think about WoW and can't stop playing. _________________
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RaedStoned Angry Gamer Joined: 29 Mar 2005
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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What a dumb game in the first place. _________________ -=|CT|=- Raed
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Stealth▲RAWR TRIANGLE RAWR▲ Joined: 13 Mar 2005
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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The best arguments are debated arguments. He would have been more persuasive if another person had been there countering. All he would have to do is to win or at least match his competitor. _________________ Motherfucking Triangles! Being all three sided n' shit, who do they think they are?!
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KordobaSailor Joined: 05 Jul 2006 Location: Egypt.
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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Stealth wrote: | The best arguments are debated arguments. He would have been more persuasive if another person had been there countering. All he would have to do is to win or at least match his competitor. |
Jack Thompson versus Adam Sessler?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmJ7IXeqG7k _________________
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Stealth▲RAWR TRIANGLE RAWR▲ Joined: 13 Mar 2005
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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I wish Jack Thompson would die. _________________ Motherfucking Triangles! Being all three sided n' shit, who do they think they are?!
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HirmuinenCT Certified Sales Rep. Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Location: Finland
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Stealth▲RAWR TRIANGLE RAWR▲ Joined: 13 Mar 2005
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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Jack Thompson doesn't ban video games because they are "bad" he does it for the money and the "bad" side of it may be a minor thing he believes in, but it's not why he's an attorney.
If he won every case and removed all the gore/slasher games. He would attack Mario Party for hitting people over the head with a hammer. I guarentee it.
I just feel bad for his son as he'll never play those awesome games such as Halo because they are "too violent." _________________ Motherfucking Triangles! Being all three sided n' shit, who do they think they are?!
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BenderThe First Bi-Sexual (mostly gay) Robot Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Location: Planet Express Ship (flying over Canada)
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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lol i love how ppl own this guy
like when he said how Britain has a law to not sell m rated games to kids along with their constitution or written law, and sessler owns him on it (cause i believe that Britain has unwritten common law or something)
and then on the other person is like how do you explain that crime in youth has gone down or something, and hes like thats not true...even though that guy has the friggen stats right there
and btw what was hirms point posting that video and saying really?
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Stealth▲RAWR TRIANGLE RAWR▲ Joined: 13 Mar 2005
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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I think he was agreeing with me and then emphasized more shit he's done. _________________ Motherfucking Triangles! Being all three sided n' shit, who do they think they are?!
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ChrisTJohn JamesonJoined: 16 Mar 2005
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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Phantom_ShadowSailor Joined: 18 Aug 2005 Location: chained to crows nest falconet of a sunken ship
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Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 4:19 am Post subject: |
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i dont have time to watch the movie, but i can attest to the fact that wow is addictive. its the only game where i've played to 3 am.
that probly why i havent been seen for a while... well, that, school and my girlfriend
EDIT: also a guy in my guild's fiance broke up with him over WOW _________________ Back again to send pirates to teh grave
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